“Veterans Under Attack” with Veterans Lawyer Francis Jackson
Veterans Under Attack with Francis Jackson Francis Jackson is a best-selling author as well as an attorney who specializes in disability law for those seeking veteran’s disability benefits and social security disability benefits. For more information visit https://veteransbenefits.com
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Bert Martinez:
Welcome back. Today, Francis Jackson is a best selling author as well as an attorney who specializes in disability law for those seeking veterans disability benefits as well as Social Security disability benefits. Today, we’re focusing on on what is happening in the veterans affairs department.
The VA department, I think February 13, announced that they were dismissing or firing more than a thousand employees who has served, for less than two years, and this is according to senator Patty Murray. And we’re talking people who are researchers, reach people who are working on cancer treatments, opioid addiction, prosthetics, burn pit exposure, you name it. These are vitally important people. And here to walk us through what’s happening is, again, Francis Jackson. Welcome back
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
My pleasure, Bert. Always a pleasure to to have a chance to chat with you.
Bert Martinez:
Thank you so much and for stopping here. I just think this is this is an incredible thing. You and I have talked about this numerous times. The VA is already struggling. It’s already, like a lot of government agencies. They’re underfunded, undermanned, and, the VA is, if I remember correctly, the second largest department, in our in our, in our government. Anyway, so I wanted to bring you on and talk about this. And again, we’ve heard how Elon Musk and and the department of the government efficiency are getting are basically gutting the government workforce.
How do you see this affecting the VA?
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
Well, the the truth is, Bert, I think it’s too soon to tell. It is a bad sign that they’re firing anybody at the VA. As as you talked about in the beginning, The VA, particularly on the benefits side, is is seriously understaffed. And, as a result, there’s a huge backlog of, of benefits claims spending. And, truthfully, they understand that they’re understaffed on the health care side as well.
There was talk at the beginning that VA was going to be exempt from these firings. And it appears that they have exempted at least the direct service professionals, doctors and nurses for for the hospitals. Although, just because of the general turmoil that that’s been created in the whole hiring process in the government.
Those those some of those folks are getting jammed up as well. But but the, the thing you wanna pay attention to is we don’t know where this is going. There there have been, cuts, but the cuts at the VA so far have been much more selective than the cuts in most departments. As you mentioned, they fired over a thousand people, but there are, like, 40,000 probationary employees at the Department of Veterans Affairs.
There’s a total staff of almost 500,000, four hundred and 80 six thousand and change at the last count. So the cuts there have been proportionally smaller, and so it’s it’s just not clear where this is going in the long run.
Bert Martinez:
Yeah. I think that, you make a very valid point there. We’re not really sure how is this is gonna shake up. Let me ask you this because, again, to your point, he has, the Trump administration is at the same time cutting or gutting, seems like, everybody. Right? Nobody has been left untouched. We have the health department, education department that they wanna completely get rid of. It’s the, my goodness. Oh, the IRS department, which I’m sure most people are like, oh, less IRS agents.
That’s great. Unless they owe you money, then it’s not so great. But obviously, there’s a pattern here. And as an attorney, I wanna get your opinion on this because one of the things that I see is this. First of all, he is, when I say he, Trump is obviously not afraid of litigation. He I think this is part of the plan. We’re gonna fire everybody, and we’re gonna do everything that we can, and knowing that 80 or 90% of the stuff he does is going to go through the court system.
And I think that that’s what he is betting on because, again, we already seen the Supreme Court said, hey. He can do whatever he wants. It’s all good. Now doesn’t mean that they’re going to rule everything in his favor, but I’m getting prepared that we’re gonna see some new constitutional law when it’s all said and done.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
I think it’s clear, Bert. I think it’s very obvious that, Trump, you know, doesn’t wanna be president. Trump wants to be emperor. In fact, there was a there was a great piece on the, the news the other night, how somebody at the White House had put together a, Photoshop thing of, Trump with a with a crown, and they were, you know, they were they were touting I mean, they this this was not they were not being sarcastic. You know, they were, Trump is Trump is just being the king. And you’re right. I mean, that’s what he’s trying to do.
Bert Martinez:
Well and I wanna remind everybody here that let’s look at what happened in Venezuela. So Hugo Chavez, who tried to take over Venezuela by force, was stopped and was, put in prison, somehow got out of prison, ran for president, and then dismantled the dismantled the Venezuelan government once he became president. Just got rid of all the checks and balances, and now we see that Venezuela from one dictator to the next, the their monthly their money their monthly their money is worthless. Right? I mean, there’s tons of YouTube videos where people are taking literally millions of their pesos or whatever, their currency, and they’re making hats and different art pieces with it because that’s it’s not worth any money.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
Right. No. And you know, Maduro, the current, the current dictator, has, you know, basically replaced all the people on the election commission. And then when he lost the election, they went ahead and certified that he won. Yep.
Bert Martinez:
And it just seems like kind of a, it seems like that is what Trump wants as well. Right? I mean, if you guys remember, during the campaign, on more than one occasion, he says, hey. Once once I’m president again, you’ll never have to vote again. How did that not alarm some people? Right? And of course, on Fox News, he did say that he would be a dictator for a day, not more than two, I think is what he said. Again, how is that just not alarming some of our listeners and and and just just good conscious, I don’t know. It just it just boggles the mind.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
I think about it pretty much terrify all of us, but it doesn’t doesn’t seem to bother some people.
Bert Martinez:
Absolutely. Unfortunately, you’re correct. Alright. Let’s talk about this. What Trump must, what Trump and Musk, declared let me rephrase it. So so Musk and Trump have declared that they wanna cut roughly 7 trillion dollars. I think it’s, like, between 6.5 and 7 trillion dollar from the federal budget. What is your take on this? Because that’s a lot of trillions for a budget.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
You misplaced the numbers a little bit, Bert. The total budget is 6.8 trillion they’re proposing to cut 2 million out of 2 trillion out of it. Excuse me.
And you know, one of the things that a lot of people don’t realize, if you eliminated the entire federal federal workforce, and I mean, literally, all of them, Firing the FBI, got rid of the courts, sent sent all the ICE and border patrol people home. Literally fired every federal employee that’s not a trillion dollars, not one. And they’re claiming they’re gonna find two.
Bert Martinez:
Well, I think that, again, they they wanna get rid of the education department. They’re looking at what departments they can get rid of. They’ve shut down, USAID. Again, I don’t know how many departments they have to get rid of to trim a trillion or 2 trillion dollar because to your point
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
They have to get rid of the ball over. They can’t keep any federal employees, and they still don’t get too much.
Bert Martinez:
That’s remarkable. That’s remarkable. But, again, you’re looking at you’re looking at, Elon Musk who has no real in my opinion, doesn’t have a connection with working class people who are, again, somebody who might be working what’s that?
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
That’s pretty much my logic. Yeah.
Bert Martinez:
Well, because yeah. Absolutely. So so here’s these guys who are billionaires and millionaires. They’re disconnected from what the average person is going through. So you think that they’re bothered by the the fact that all of a sudden we we’re having an egg crisis and you’re gonna be paying $10.12, $15 an egg or, per carton of eggs.
To them, they don’t care. That doesn’t affect them one way or the other. It’s certainly not gonna affect the richest man in the world. So for him to come in and say, we got to gut all these things without thinking about the humanity behind those budgets. Now, again, is there waste in our government? Absolutely. But I bet you a lot of that waste comes from the sweet deals that Congress cuts. I mean, right now, as far as I know, some of the biggest industries, sugar, corn, oil, the beef industry, all of these guys get subsidies.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
And what what’s going on when you when you look at this? I mean, if you stop and and actually drill down on this stuff, and and the the thing is you start talking trillions of dollars and, you know, those are those are crazy numbers. Anytime you see one with 12 zeros after it, no but nobody can really figure out what that means.
But but if you start looking at what they’re doing I mean, essentially, what you’ve got is, as you said a minute ago, you got a bunch of millionaires and billionaires who don’t wanna pay taxes, and they’re finding ways to cut the government because they wanna keep taxes low.
That’s that’s their goal. So but you can’t do what they’re promising without doing some real serious harm. What most people don’t seem to pay attention to is out of the 6.8 trillion that comprise the federal budget, 65% of that of that total, about 4 and a half trillion is Social Security, Medicare, and veterans benefits. That’s it. That’s all.
So that’s that is 4,.5 trillion out of the 6.8. And if you throw out the defense department, which is another, trillion, you know, you now are at 5.5 trillion So the only way you can meet the the Musk Trump goal of cutting 2 trillion from the budget is to cut defense, Medicare, Social Security, or veterans benefits or some combination thereof. You you can’t do it any other way. The the numbers simply don’t work.
Bert Martinez:
And when you think about how scary that is, there’s a large percentage of Americans that count on, Social Security, that count on Medicare, Medicaid, and not to mention our veterans who count on their benefits from, the Department of of Defense. And they were promised these things. Put your put your life on the line, and when if you make it back, you’re gonna have access to medical. You’re gonna have access to education funds. You’re gonna have access to housing funds. And now they’re saying, maybe not. Maybe we’re just going to not do any of that. We’re not gonna honor any of that.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
That’s what they would have to do to get to a true 2 trillion dollar cut. There’s no other way. I mean, as as I said earlier, if you literally fired every single February employee tomorrow, that’s about 2.7 billion dollar. That’s it’s a big number, but it doesn’t even get you to the first billion. You know? And and that’s that’s everything. That’s that’s firing the people who are in the Social Security office. That’s firing the people at treasury who send out the Social Security and VA checks. I mean, that’s firing every single employee in the entire government other other than the defense department.
Bert Martinez:
That that is such a crazy thought. It blows me away. So you fire every federal employee except for the defense, and you’re still,
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
you know You you haven’t even gotten half a trillion.
Bert Martinez:
Yeah. That just blows me away.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
And they’re swearing they’re gonna get to two. I mean, it’s you you can’t get to two without cutting into Medicaid, Social Security, veterans benefits. It it can’t be done. The the math just doesn’t work.
Bert Martinez:
You know, and something else that I found interesting, is that he fired, a bunch of the inspector generals. Right? And so I found for those of us who aren’t familiar with the inspector general, and and this is what I understand, correct me if I’m wrong, you know, the inspector generals, one of their first duties or or is to help, monitor fraud and waste.
They are the first line, and so when they see waste and when they see fraud, they’re the the ones that make that report. And it just seems odd to me that for the Department of Government Efficiency and for the Trump administration who are looking to cut fraud and cut waste that you will get rid of the first line of waste finders for lack of better terms.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
I think there’s some pretty obvious reasons for that. I mean, if you look at the Trump cabinet, which is composed exclusively of millionaires and billionaires, those people are not seriously interested in in cutting overall government spending.
They’re interested in extracting the money from the government in ways that, they don’t get caught for. I mean, Musk alone has billions of dollars of contracts with the federal government through his various enterprises, When you talk about his SpaceX or, the, the, the, the trucks the the electronic trucks from, the from Tesla that he’s, selling to the state department. You know, it it goes on and on and on.
They just don’t want anybody looking over their shoulder to see how much they chiseled, like, if you’re pardon me, being crude about it.
Bert Martinez:
No. I think you hit the nail right on the head. That that’s the only thing that makes sense. If if you’re gonna get rid of the watchdogs, it’s because you don’t wanna be watched. You don’t wanna be held accountable, to the same light that you’re holding other people accountable.
Let me ask you this. How, again, how how big is the budget for the Department of Defense?
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
The Department of Defense is about a trillion dollars. So it’s it’s got 15% roughly of of the entire national budget.
Bert Martinez:
Yeah. And and I tell you what’s also kind of interesting, that, I just found this out. A lot of you guys probably already know this, but to me, it was it was news. And that is if, in I believe I’m getting these numbers correct. But bottom line is China, their their standing army is twice as big as ours. Their navy is two to three times the size of our navy. And so that to me, I found that to be very interesting and alarming. 20% of the illegal aliens that are crossing the border are from China.
That was, from a an investigation that sixty minutes did. So, again, I know there’s a lot of focus, a lot of talk about illegal immigrants, and a lot of that is focused on the Latinos, which do come here illegally, but they but they work hard and they send a lot of money home.
You know, we’ve never had we we’ve never had a Mexican or a Latino who was caught for espionage, but every year, we have four or five Chinese individuals. Some of these are some of these are American citizens who have been caught sending information back to China.
And when I say American citizens, these are, Chinese immigrants who went through the system, became naturalized citizens, but they still are, agents of China, and they and they get caught with espionage, again, three or four times a year, on a pretty regular basis. So to me, I just find it interesting that there’s so much focus on the Latinos. Nothing is mentioned of China who has a long history of being a bad citizen, just a a global globally being a bad citizen. Right? They send toxic food.
They send toxic toys, toxic honey. You name it. In my opinion, it seems like China is doing the best they can to become the only power in the world.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
That’s I mean, it’s clear that the Chinese schools become the superpower of the world.
Bert Martinez:
And you cannot underestimate their power because they have literally billions of people at their disposal, and they’re not afraid of enlisting people against their will.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
That’s true. The Chinese are famous for, you know, do this or we’ll wipe out your family kind of, kind of approach to to, persuading people.
Bert Martinez:
Yes. Alright. So, right now, what is your take? Do we just wait and see what’s gonna happen? I mean, do we write our our senators and our congressmen, our congress people who are basically a lot of them are pro Trump anyway. So what do we do now? Just wait and see?
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
Well, I think there are a couple things that need to be done. Obviously, one is to to register the extent of our unhappiness with, with what’s going on. And, I thought it was very interesting that, the the volume of calls over overloaded the entire, network for the house and senate, because so many people were trying to call and complain about what’s going on.
And, Senator Lisa Murkowski from, Alaska, posted something on the Internet about that saying, you know, we understand that we’re getting a lot of calls and unfortunately, the system couldn’t handle them all, but, you know, we’re we’re interested in what you have to say.
And as you know, Murkowski has been one of the few Republicans who has stood up and said, yeah, I’m not happy with this and has voted against some of the nominees and so on.
But, in in terms of making a serious response to your question, seems to me that one of the first things that has to that people have to do if they’re not happy with what’s going on is look at the twenty twenty six elections. Right now, the Republicans have enough votes barely to control house and senate. The numbers for the senate in the 2026 round of elections, there are far more Republicans who are up for reelection than, Democrats.
And so there’s there’s, some, possibility there. But, the real potential gain, I think, in terms of trying to restore balance here is in the house.
There are lots of house races that look like they’re they’re, potentially, subject to flipping as as people become disaffected with the way things are being done. So I think paying attention to and supporting those folks both in terms of volunteering and money and so on is gonna become one important thing.
I think the other important thing is the courts you know, this this nonsense like Trump’s proposal to end birthright citizenship, you know, I mean, that’s embedded in the constitution. I don’t think either Trump can get away with that. Same with, Trump getting a third term. And, you know, it’s in the constitution.
I don’t think he can get away with it. But, as you pointed out earlier, one concern is that the current balance of the Supreme Court requires that someone who is more conservative than the than some of the others, has to vote against these, things that Trump is doing in order to actually get a majority.
And, I mean, I think that it’s been interesting to watch, justice Gorsuch and justice Barrett in particular, along with justice Roberts, I think are not ideal ones. They’re not, they they have conservative views. No question. But I don’t think they are willing to just toss constitution out the window. There are a couple of justices there who I I wouldn’t say that about. But, you know, I do think that ultimately, the courts are going to be the problem with lower against, real, overuse of executive power.
Now the one thing that is really scary is you’ve got JD Vance rolling around and some other people have echoed it. Say, yeah. Well, we don’t care what the court said. We’re just gonna go ahead and do it.
That’s that’s outright revolt. I don’t know where that goes. I I’m hoping it doesn’t go that far. Trump, to this point, at least, has been saying, well, those in court will just appeal. We’re we’re not we’re not you know, we’re gonna do what the court say. So I’m I’m hoping that will continue. But it does seem to me that one of the things that frustrates people is how slowly the courts move. But I do think, ultimately, the courts are going to reign in, our, would be emperor.
But we’ll we’ll see. That’s I think is, is the longer term. But I do think in the shorter term, you know, in most presidencies, not always, but in most presidencies, in the first term, the numbers change in terms of the number of members of that president’s party who are, reelected.
They typically go down. Typically, the incumbent, loses, either senator senators or members of the house or both. And my best guess and that’s all it is. I’m not a political expert. My best guess is that you’ll see Trump lose the house in 2026.
But who knows? You know? He may do things that make people so happy with him that, that won’t happen, but he wouldn’t be glad that.
Bert Martinez:
Right. And as you mentioned, before the show started, it is the economy, stupid. Right? And it is the number one thing that I think a a lot of Americans are concerned about is my income, my ability to buy a house, you know, my taxes. People, the the news networks are constantly talking about the disappearing middle class and how much harder it is. And so I think that to your point, if all of a sudden Trump is able to pull that rabbit out of his hat, then everybody will say, hey. Yay. We did the right thing, and this guy’s awesome. Let’s keep him there going forever.
But his idea of of taxing by tariffs or managing by tariffs, I think, is, you know, I think is bad, and and and I think he does too. So I think he was gonna put a tariff on Mexico, and he decided at the last minute, no. He was gonna put a tariff on Canada.
At the last minute, he decided no. I believe he still has a small tariff against China of 10% or something. But I think that he’s aware that that Mexico and Canada, they’ll just retaliate in kind. And all of a sudden, if you think that, you know, paying, whatever whatever it is, 80¢ for a pound of bananas is high, wait till you’re paying $2 for that same pound.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
Yeah. I do think tariffs are gonna come back to bite him. And the the 25% tax on steel and aluminum, I personally convinced that’s not gonna do good things for the economy. I think the price of cars, for example, is is going to go up substantially.
But, you know, it it it may be that cooler heads will prevail and you’ll back off from those tariffs. But the current the currently imposed tariff of 25% on steel and aluminum alone, I think is going to have a significant impact. If he goes and and continues with the tariffs and he seems to be in love with the concept, then I think there’s a very good chance that the inflation numbers will go up. As as you saw, his first month wasn’t great.
Nobody knows yet what the what’s gonna look like from here, but, I don’t see any way that he’s going to be able to keep his promise on bringing inflation down and, be able to, make things more affordable for people with the the policy he’s currently pursuing.
Bert Martinez:
And I agree. I I think, you’re right. I think the CEO of Ford basically came out and said the same thing that, taxing our vehicles at 25%, and that’s essentially what he’s doing. He says you’re just making it easier for foreign competition to come into The US.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
Now he’s now he’s putting a tariff on foreign cars. Right. So, you know, and I mean, it’s it’s not gonna get better, I don’t think.
Bert Martinez:
It’s not. And like you said, only time will tell because maybe by some miracle, something else happens. But managing by tariffs, I think historically has proven to be, bad. It’s a poor way to manage. And I think that, most people, don’t. Let me rephrase that. I think that most farmers appreciate the people who work for them, and historically, these are individuals who come here, illegally. There are a lot of illegals that help pick our crops.
But you get rid of all these people, and all of a sudden, your all your cost of produce is gonna shoot up. During the first Trump administration, when he scared again, he scared the migrant worker. There was four tons of uncollected food in California that just went bad because there was nobody to pick it.
And and and what happens is that, if if I remember correctly, the the farmers were, like, begging people to come work. We’ll pay you $30.40, $50 an hour. They couldn’t get anybody. And and what happens is, like, not that my kids are spoiled, but I think my you know, a a lot of our generation, the children or the the our kids have evolved. They’re now doing service projects now or service type work.
And so not that picking crops is is, inherently a bad thing. America was raised on farming. You know, at one point, we were we were feeding the world and and and we had such a surplus that we could send food all over. And I think that surplus is gonna dry up.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
Well, I think certainly, there’s going to be a problem in getting labor in what we would think of as heavy labor jobs. You know, picking produce, for example, that’s tough work, you know, out in the in the heat and stooping overall day, you know, it’s not not good stuff. And I think there’s gonna be a real shortage of people willing to do heavy labor.
It’s not clear what’s gonna happen. As you as you probably have noticed, there’s a fight within the Republican Party, trying to get Trump’s ear between people like Steve Bannon who are opposed to pretty much any foreign workers. And people like Musk were saying, oh, we need skilled foreign workers.
We need the h one b and and, those kind of folks. So who knows where that’s all gonna go? But the thing that that people are not paying attention to, I don’t think, and I suspect they’re gonna have to assume, is that there is a disproportionate, disproportionate level of workers available in relation to the, older generation that needs the most help.
What what’s going on right now, you know, the baby boom generation, and after COVID, most of the folks who are 65 and up, who were still in the labor force, left the labor force. Many of them retired. Sadly, a number died. Others got sick and said, you know, I don’t need to do this anymore. And after COVID, if you look at the statistics about what groups came back to the labor force, the group that didn’t come back in large part is the 60 group. So now you’ve got all these older folks.
We’ve got a relatively small generation behind them. I mean, if you look at the at the numbers, the sheer numbers of the baby boomers compared to later generations, There just aren’t a lot of people there who are workers, and you may have noticed that in the last few years, wages have gone up comparatively, which has put a strain on various kinds of businesses, especially fast foods.
But, it’s, I think, going to get worse because one of the ways that we were offsetting that strain was with immigrants. And if you scare people off from immigrating and right now, they’re not making much distinction between legal and l and illegal immigrants.
And then, you know, these roundups, they’re they’re scooping up people who are here legally and just waiting for asylum hearing or whatever. But regardless, if you if you put a lot of pressure on, that segment of labor force, as you were saying earlier, I there’s there’s not gonna be anybody doing work.
And, you know, while we’re making strides with AI and robotics and so on to, to fill in some of that deficiency, You can’t fill it all fast enough. There’s going to be a a serious labor shortage, in my opinion, if the Trump administration continues with its current efforts. And they don’t seem to be changing course so far. So we’ll see.
But it seems to me that that’s going to become a serious problem.
Bert Martinez:
Well, and to your point, look what’s happening in New York. Talk about, in your face, in my opinion, in your face corruption. Right? So, for those, who aren’t aware, they’re prosecuting the mayor of New York, for all sorts of corruption and bribery type of, of indictments.
And the Trump administration came in and said, hey. We want to dismiss that case completely, not because of lack of evidence, but just because we can force this mayor to play ball with us. And if you watch the Fox News where, the what do you call it? The borders are basically is just is just saying, hey. If this guy doesn’t play ball with us, you know, I’m gonna be at his house. And and this is so you have you have the border czar and then you have, mayor Adams, and they’re both on Fox News.
And the mayor is saying, well, they got me. I’ve capitulated. I have no choice but to do what they want. And it is a very sad interview, and it’s just like, wow. There is no line that the administration will not cross.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
Yeah. It it it’s sad. And one of the one of the things that, has happened is I’m afraid they’re going to be successful in criticizing the Department of Justice. You know, one of one of the things that happened in the in the Adams case, we’re talking about a number of senior prosecutors resigned. Just said, you know, we can’t count against this kind of stuff. And, you know, it it is not good when you have the best and brightest people leading along leading along for us. And that’s that’s not a good thing. But, you know, we’re just gonna have to see where it all goes.
I as I said, I’m hopeful that the courts will reign this in, but that’s a very slow process.
Bert Martinez:
Very slow process. And to your point, the first prosecutor to resign on the Adams case was a Trump appointee, I believe. She’s a conservative Republican. I believe the second person who resigned was also a conservative Republican. And you know, the I’m grateful that some of these people are saying, hey. This is not what I signed up for. This is not legal. This is not, right, and I’m not gonna put up with it.
It’s still a very, what do you call it? A very, it gives me hope. I’ll just say it just gives me hope that there’s some people out there that are standing up for for what’s right.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
One of the one of the senior ethics people with justice just left. I mean, it’s not good.
Bert Martinez:
Alright. So we’re out of time. I wanna say thank you so much, Francis Jackson, for stopping by, letting us know what’s gonna be happening to our brave men and women. Seems like they have a a fight, in their near future just to get their benefits.
If you guys wanna know more about Francis Jackson and his team, check out veteransbenefits.com, veterans benefits Com. Francis, thank you so much for stopping by today.
Lawyer Francis Jackson:
It’s always a pleasure to have a chance to chat with you.